Trump’s discussions on tariffs with Japan reveal contrasting perceptions of progress, necessitating cautious interpretation

    by VT Markets
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    Apr 19, 2025

    The US and Japan have concluded their initial trade negotiations, with Trump claiming “big progress.” However, specifics remain under wraps, and more dialogues are scheduled. Trump’s statements are often grandiose, as seen in the past with China when a “large deal” was claimed before details were fully secured.

    During negotiations in 2019 with China, Trump’s declarations of progress did not fully align with China’s more cautious announcements. This pattern suggests a tendency for Trump to optimistically describe negotiations, which might not fully reflect the ongoing talks’ status or outcomes.

    Tariff Reductions in Focus

    Japan initially faced 24% tariffs, now reduced to 10% alongside 25% auto tariffs. The outcome of further negotiations will determine which tariffs, if any, are lifted. Retaining the 10% tariffs despite talks could set a challenging precedent if no significant concessions are made in return.

    The developments in US-Japan trade talks are unfolding, with much dependent on the eventual details rather than premature statements. The complexity of trade negotiations underscores the importance of examining outcomes rather than rhetoric.

    What we’ve seen so far boils down to more theatre than substance. The initial announcements, although projecting optimism, lacked measurable progress. Trump’s remarks, while attention-grabbing, need to be assessed with a great deal of caution based on historical patterns—particularly those seen during earlier talks with China when headlines ran ahead of facts. The same approach appears to be repeating. When someone at the top claims advancement without a document to back it up, we must maintain a wait-and-see stance.

    A closer look at the adjustments to tariffs reveals more about the strategy than any press release. Japan appeared to accept a temporary reduction on one front—tariffs on certain industrial exports down to 10%—but this still leaves substantial duties in place, especially in the automotive sector. Washington has long used these measures as bargaining tools rather than permanent fixtures. For now, the persistence of the 10% rate, and the looming threat of a 25% rate on cars, suggests not so much a breakthrough as an opening chapter.

    Trader Reactions and Market Implications

    From a trader’s point of view, especially those operating in forward-looking markets, the direction of these talks has more practical use than loud claims made during meetings. In the absence of removed or reduced tariffs, expectations are shifting toward further rounds of back-and-forth, with little clarity emerging until the U.S. administration decides whether to formalise reductions or maintain pressure.

    Despite announcements dressed in fanfare, the market remains in a holding pattern, relying on data rather than declarations. Given how prior remarks by Trump failed to produce immediate, concrete benefits with China, this current approach with Japan is best viewed through a similar lens. Short-term enthusiasm is unlikely to find footing in market pricing unless new agreements are released in full detail, which hasn’t happened.

    For our positioning and risk balance, we’ve found it helpful to weigh actual policy shifts rather than proposed ones. Real structural trade changes typically lead to shifts in demand forecasts and production pipelines. Without a timeline or scope for these revisions, we’ve found minimal reasoning to adjust exposure just yet.

    Further, the surrounding macro-environment—such as currency policy and domestic industrial output in Japan—must be evaluated when considering how any tariff removal, or the absence of one, will influence export flows. The yen remains sensitive, and recent central bank commentary out of Tokyo hints at continued caution, especially if any U.S.-driven trade changes upset their balance sheets.

    Auto manufacturing figures this quarter could serve as a clearer indicator than any public statement from executives or heads of state. If duties remain, they will be priced directly into consumer sales expectations, supply chain timing, and inventory loads.

    Anticipating fresh movement before the next round of trade discussions is unrealistic. We’ve found it better to manage calendars around official deadlines and policy periods rather than speculation. Equities sensitive to trade swings are not aligning with the tone of these announcements, likely because desk traders are operating with a higher threshold for confirmation.

    One should note that where Tokyo refrains from mirroring Washington’s optimism, it often hints at guarded policy planning. Past experience tells us these subtleties are a released valve of sorts—designed to signal caution without disrupting nearby sessions. That’s how we’ve read it, and it has held up well under scrutiny.

    Over the coming weeks, focus on actual movement at the customs level, particularly any slight shifts in duty collection data or licensing arrangements. If the authorities are preparing to phase in changes, advance signals tend to appear in freight approvals and reformatted landing papers. These are reliable markers.

    For now, we continue to keep exposure balanced, avoid excessive reliance on headline reactions, and wait for verifiable regulatory shifts before recalibrating any weightings.

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